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1. GBA编辑器
   Martin Holladay|Apr 28, 2011 03:52pm|＃1

   埃里克，
   根据“了解节能窗口”，由保罗Fisette进行了一篇良好的自制文章，“氩气和氪是安全的，惰性气体，并且它们会随着时间的推移从窗口泄漏。研究表明在20年的过程中损失了10％，但这将减少[编辑注意事项：我认为他的意思是增加了单位的U形因素。“

   绝缘玻璃窗使用的密封件一直在改善。根据新的欧洲标准（EN1279），氩泄漏率每年不得超过0.5％至1％。

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   Eric Mikkelsen|Apr 29, 2011 01:06pm|＃2

   是否有任何高性能的三层玻璃窗，不会填补气体，更经济？......或者对于想要能节能并且预算紧张的人的建议？Windows是我不想替换和升级后的东西，但高成本只是禁止...最佳价值/性能窗口的任何建议？我想留在玻璃纤维框架，以便它们可以被绘制。任何建议，将不胜感激。谢谢， - 学习

3. GBA编辑器
   Martin Holladay|2011年4月29日01:18 PM|＃3

   埃里克，
   Q。“有什么高性能三层玻璃windows that are not gas filled?"

   答：是的。如果这就是你想要的话，你应该能够用清晰的三层玻璃订购Windows。您将最终获得高SHGC，但您的U-Factor将与氩气的单位相比遭受。

   Q。“有什么高性能三层玻璃windows that are more economical?"

   A. I doubt whether substituting clear triple glazing for argon-filled triple glazing will save you much money. To get an answer, though, just call up your window supplier.

   问：“您是否对希望能源有效并且预算紧张的人有任何建议？”

   A.建立一个较小的房子。

   Q。"Any suggestions for best value/performance windows?"

   答：您可能希望构建某些站点构建的固定窗口。购买一些可操作的窗户后，使RET固定。您可以订购玻璃窗并构建自己的框架。

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   Eric Mikkelsen|Apr 29, 2011 01:31pm|＃4

   Thank you Mr. Holladay for your insights

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   Devin Ratliff|2011年4月29日01:41 PM|＃5

   有一个很好的英国学习分析能源使用/体现的能源/回报可能感兴趣的窗口类型：

   http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/faculty/mazzeo/htm/sp_files/021209/(1 )%20payback%20periods/articles/windowpayback periods_bsert_2005.pdf.

   本研究表明，空气氩升级（在新建建设中）在6 - 8年内回报 - 因此，即使所有的气体都在10年内消散（比Martin的数据所表达的更戏剧性），您都有已经偿还了它。这项研究并未在氪上表现出良好的回报;三重玻璃氩更快地支付更快。

   As with any payback, first cost, climate, and energy cost should all be considered. Coming from the UK, all of those values will differ, so your results may vary (though not likely to the point where it changes the determination - I know that I've seen other studies that put argon payback at 3-5 years as well).

   A note of warning: I find this report a bit confusing - payback is calculated both in terms of finances and embodied energy without clearly separating the two. Energy pays off substantially faster, so some of the numbers that seem too good to be true (15 day payback!), are too good to be true, at least financially.

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   Devin Ratliff|Apr 29, 2011 01:50pm|＃6

   I agree with all of martin's points from his last post - smaller house, site built windows, etc.

   但是在网站上的一个注意事项构建了Windows。如果您的Buidling部门需要Rescheck（DOE软件住宅能源检查）进行批准，则对非NFRC标记为Windows基本上受到惩罚。正如我回忆，我不得不将0.65放在我的网站上的Demult U-Value（通常是用玻璃u = 0.19的中心构建）。如果我被允许使用ASHRAE基本面比率，我更有可能在20多岁时曾经考虑过那些窗户。

   结果，由于现场的数量建造了窗户和玻璃的数量，我的绝缘绝缘良好的被动太阳能池几乎通过。我不会敲我的Buidling部门要求Rescheck - 我希望更多地做了 - 但这是一个不完美的系统......

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   Eric Mikkelsen|Apr 29, 2011 03:01pm|#7

   您知道用于购买现场构建窗口的材料的最佳网站？这些是多少？

8. GBA编辑器
   Martin Holladay|Apr 29, 2011 03:05pm|#8

   埃里克，
   如果您还没有完成木工或内阁的工作，您可能不应该建立自己的窗户。但如果你用店铺工具方便，而且你了解玻璃停止，闪烁和窗帘角度，去吧。

   任何本地玻璃店都应该能够以您想要的任何尺寸订购您的Igus。

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   鲍勃科曼|2011年4月30日02:56 AM|#9

   注意：有一个工具可以扫描窗口（类似于IR枪）来检测它内部的气体。我想让一个专业人士那里有能力出来并检查你的窗户成本。

   the books from many windows companies i look at have the option of air filled chambers, even on the triple pane models. of course if your paying for triple pane windows, they generally market the gas fill with it. i'd guess you may pay as much to request for them to not use the gas as an upcharge on a 'special order'.

   if you trust the company enough to give you a proper tripple pane window, you should trust the glass unit sealing too.

   probably the best way to save is to buy standard sizes or sizes that are premanufactured and stocked at the store. not so easy with triple pane models though. of course it kills your design ideas and color choices.
   the other best way to save is to skip as many windows as possible. apart from some solar gain applications, they are costly to buy and install and not energy effecient.

   and if your concerned about quality, building your own is probably not the best plan. once you pay for someone skilled enough to do it properly, you could have just ordered them from people who do it all day long in a specialized factory with quality control. a window rep will warranty the whole window and possibly the install/reinstall.