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如何确保我们的承包商正确安装了绝缘?

katie nunez.|发布了General Questions

最近,我们的承包商表示,他的绝缘材料完整地安装在我们家的现有墙壁中的纤维素,并希望签署客户满意度。我们的家用雪松疱疹,焦油纸和松舌和沟槽护套。他拆下了外墙并通过焦油纸和松树钻,以安装纤维素。然后他安装了一个聚苯乙烯泡沫塑料插头并将带状疱疹倒回来。然而,我的丈夫担心钻出的区域,然后充满了聚苯乙烯泡沫塑料的区域可能具有水分或泄漏。他还认为一些焦油纸被剥夺了这个过程。当我的丈夫带来他的注意力时,他用Tyvek纸张密封了无障碍孔。我们的承包商表示,水分不会落后于带状疱疹,并在已经覆盖的孔上放置保护是不必要的。你怎么看?

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  1. Dan Kolbert||#1

    有照片吗?

  2. Flitch Plate||#2

    凯蒂
    你正在混合几个问题。
    使用纤维素安装,两个测试用于计算它是否正确 - 并且应该在安装期间进行实时质量控制 - 您仍然可以执行它们:
    - 红外线摄像头,以便视觉检查寒冷的斑点和应用的一致性。如果安装程序不使用一个问题,则会出现问题和失败的可能性
    - 还,基于墙壁腔的尺寸和材料吹入每个开口的材料的尺寸估计。完成粗糙的数字材料数量和红旗安装空白。

    您的承包商是正确的,您的遮阳板停止(大多数)散装水入口,但你是正确的,而你是焦油纸是最后的防线,需要保持其完整性,所以每个钻孔和撕裂都应用建筑带回合密封沥青。

    As for moisture in the form of water vapor and condensation, the matter is more complex and not addressed so much by the integrity of the tar paper as it is by temperature factors as they interact with your entire wall and house design/materials.

  3. David Meiland||#3

    手势,不确定为什么要提出IR和袋数,她的问题是关于密封孔。

    听起来像是正常的。如果移除瓦片以钻孔孔,则在它下面的遮蔽处暴露,并且钻孔的位置是钻孔。毛毡背后的鹅卵石,因此损坏它应该是最小的。只要塞子紧密配件(任何用于安装插头的密封剂?)并且外瓣覆盖孔很好,我不会担心漏水。

    我已经看到钻井/填充工作,因为没有壁板被移除,插头被曝光,没有明显的问题。我的房子由前任所有者这样绝缘。我盖住了它,发现插头泄露没有迹象。

  4. katie nunez.||#4

    谢谢您的意见。不使用密封剂。我附上了一张钻孔的照片让你看看。感谢您对此的反馈意见...顺便说一下,在我的询问附近的墙上显示的墙壁照片不是我的。照片我附着在钻孔中的聚苯乙烯泡沫塑料。
    谢谢,
    凯蒂

  5. katie nunez.||#5

    但是,如果我点击上面的照片来放大照片似乎没有发布,以放大我的照片似乎上来。

  6. David Meiland||#6

    The felt (tar paper) in your photo does not appear to be torn much, but they broke a piece of the shingle when they drilled the hole. It's unfortunate, but not a huge deal. A super-fastidious craftsman would have slid a piece of thick felt or perhaps thin sheet metal behind that shingle to help protect the wall there, but most would not. I have not seen the styro plugs, they are usually wood around here, and glued in place. Bottom line for me is that you have shingled sidewall, which is great at shedding water, and I doubt you'll have problems. I'll be interested to hear other opinions on the foam plugs.

  7. Flitch Plate||#7

    Lookin’ at the photo and I don’t much like what I see. These are EPS foam plugs, suitable for drywall penetrations of interior wall cellulose installs and then mudding over, but not so good for an exterior install … especially in plank sheathing. I would have insisted on wood plugs.

    http://www.insulationsupplies.com/products/wood-plugs.

    Sure, there might not be a bulk water entry problem, but if you examine the shingles they seem to show water stains and the under-shingle (the one penetrated) seems to be pulling water vertically by capillary action.

    这种墙是海绵(带状疱疹和木板);它仅受屋顶毡/沥青浸渍纸保护。在穿过瓦片时,难以胶带或以其他方式密封这些孔,但散装防水罩的完整性肯定会受到损害。我不同意这份工作的承包商。

    戴夫,提及卷和红外检查安装。它是由标题问题暗示的,然后将我震惊了,如果安装程序是这种快速和肮脏的(根据帖子,他们可能没有控制和质量保证,以获得承诺的密度权。坦率地说,这一张照片示例看起来像“进入并快速”的工作。

    凯蒂, what density of blow (i.e. lb’s of cellulose per sq ft) did you pay the contractor to achieve? And how did they prove to you (and themselves) that they did achieve it? What price per sq ft of wall did they quote you?

  8. katie nunez.||#8

    我相信我每SF收取约3.12美元,以将纤维素吹入现有的墙壁。建议将其浓密从R-0填充到R-13.6。这就是它对提案所说的提案所说的内容也表示墙壁应该是R-15所以我想我想澄清我应该要求澄清。

    真诚的感谢你的所有想法。

  9. Flitch Plate||#9

    你现在在哪里?R13.6是适用于致密包装2 x 4墙的权利。我不能从你的照片中告诉:墙的2 x 4“或2 x 6”是吗?

    对于您收取的价格,您应该提供“无效或冷点调用保证保修”,并给出了您所获得的所支付的证明。将使用签名表来完成,该签名表指定安装的材料(1)宽度,(2)安装表面的平方英尺加上立方英尺的体积,(3)安装的纤维素的密度,和(4)完全散步虽然使用红外线相机向您展示工作的质量并证明没有空隙。

  10. katie nunez.||#10

    Thank you. Would an infrared camera work this time of year in Connecticut? We were told that the infrared would not work as well when there is not that much of a difference in the inside and outdoor temperature.
    Also our walls in this part of the house are 2x 4.
    最后,Dave提到的木插头主要用于他的地区......我想知道那在哪里?

  11. Flitch Plate||#11

    如果您查看上面的电子邮件,您将在木插头上找到一个带线的URL。

    红外线相机在酷清晨和凉爽的夜晚工作。

  12. Dan Kolbert||#12

    戴夫在太平洋。

  13. katie nunez.||#13

    Thanks again,, I'm drafting a letter to our contractor and a question occurred to me as I was writing. stryofoam repels water so I was wondering why that was considered inferior in an exterior wall? Is it for structural reasons or protection from anything hitting the outside wall? Also, when we do mention the wood plug should we also recommend a wood glue sealant?
    最后,在晚上和早晨,60-70年代对我们来说非常酷......你现在认为这是对红外线的良好吗?

  14. David Meiland||#14

    我不知道密集包承包商如何通过IR展示浏览他们的作业,但是有规定的检查绝缘材料的标准,如Resnet,等必要条件包括18度温差一段时间的时间,现在很难得到,你需要一个很好的相机和经验丰富的运营商进行检查。如果您真的想这样做,雇用第三方可能会更好。在错误的条件下非常容易获得误报。我的看法是你应该验证填充袋数。在完成后,我的绝缘体在工作后留下了一份袋子数,如果我问,将留出所有的袋子。

    如果您的安装人员是好的,他们将一切都没有问题,发现墙壁试图插入软管时有任何障碍物。

    As I said, the wood plugs are what I am used to seeing here, but they are exposed after installation and painted over. The styro plugs seem OK to me since they are covered by a shingle. However, you could call an insulation supply and ask if the styro plugs are OK for use on the exterior side.

  15. Flitch Plate||#15

    There is no need for "glue", the plugs are tapered and will stay put once knocked into place.

    在我看来,戴夫,那是什么让一个良好的DP单元安装者是使用IR相机在工作前面设置基线,然后在质量控制安装期间,然后将前后结果显示给房主。结尾。

  16. David Meiland||#16

    手势,您处理多少绝缘体,以及他们用IR检查每项工作吗?对我来说,你似乎说人们可以或应该,但你没有明确说过,你知道一堆绝缘体,他们经常这样做。

    我处理三个,他们没有用IR检查一切。他们知道他们的机器和袋子计数,以便在墙壁上获得密集的包装材料,因为它们一直这样做。我有时检查他们的工作,没有发现问题。我留下了从全国各地的人们阅读这些东西的印象是大多数绝缘体都没有扫描每项工作,并且可能很多都没有扫描任何东西,因为它们没有设备。

    If Katie's guy has IR and can get the delta T, then by all means I think he should give her a tour of the completed job. Better than that would be to get someone impartial.

  17. 专家成员
    Dana Dorsett||#17

    IR成像不会告诉您密集包的密度,但会告诉您是否存在创造空隙的框架障碍物。

    Most experience dense-packers have well-calibrated fingers and can tell you with startling accuracy the density at the fill-hole where they can poke at it directly. Average density can be estimated by counting the bags and a bit of napkin-math. Some dense-packing contractors will do random spot checking by taking core-samples, measuring the density of standard volume cores directly by weighing the samples.

    在安装过程中,我已经看到了纤维素绝缘承包商使用鼓风机门来验证所有热旁路是否被照顾,但从未进行过IR成像。

    Foam insulation contractors often use IR imaging during slow-rise pours in wall cavities to estimate where the initial rise will stop. That enables them to top it off without adding so much material that it a blows out the wall (which is a slow-rise foam installers nightmare scenario.)

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