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罗伯特·梅森|发布General Questions

我有一个白天的地下室三层楼,在缅因州南部有一个未绝缘的平板。目前,它之间有3/4的卧铺,他们之间的EPS。是在翻新中吗?要拉卧铺以更好地隔离是否值得工作,也比踢脚板氢气更好。值得额外的费用吗?谢谢

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  1. GBA Editor
    马丁·霍拉迪(Martin Holladay)||#1

    Robert,
    如果没有现场访问,很难知道您家中的热弱点在哪里。

    如果您的“日光地下室”包括门,则门附近的区域通常是热弱点。当然,您需要直接在门阈值下方的垂直刚性泡沫绝缘材料,从而向下至少3英尺进入土壤。

    If your basement has uninsulated concrete walls, they certainly need to be insulated.

    改善地板隔热是有意义的是判断。如果您不想,您不必拉起卧铺。您可以在卧铺和EPS的顶部安装2英寸厚的刚性泡沫的连续层,然后是一层胶合板。(当然,如果您有门,则需要调整门阈值。)

  2. Expert Member
    Dana Dorsett||#2

    在南部ME的新建筑中,充满电踢脚板,油或丙烷加热的地方值得在平板下击中R10,如果不加热的话(R15如果辐射)是有道理的。对于在平板上方使用泡沫的改造,它更加密集,并且还考虑了调整楼梯和阈值以适应更换的地板水平,这增加了巨大的费用。

    At the slab edges & above-grade perimeter it's all about heat loss, but with mid-slab insulation it's as much about mold & moisture control and comfort: Summertime outdoor dew points are much higher than the subsoil temps in a ME climate, and a box left on the floor of an uninsulated slab will get moldy, even if there's a capillary break and vapor barrier under it. (It wouldn't surprise me if the existing 1x sleepers were a bit punky or moldy on the bottom side where they contact the cool slab, not from ground moisture, but from summertime moisture from the conditioned space air.) While R3 (3/4" EPS) is enough to mitigate the worst mold issues, another inch would buy you some margin. If you leave them in and install more foam over them it's probably worth putting 6-mil poly between the sleepers and new foam.

    From purely an operating cost point of view there's rarely a good economic case to be made for the expense of radiant floors, but from a comfort point of view it's huge as compared to fin-tube baseboard. In-between is low-temp hydronic panel radiators, which are far more comfortable than baseboard, yet far cheaper than radiant floor. If it's a finished basement you plan on spending some time in winter a radiator approach or even radiant floor may be "worth it", but if it's workshop space or intermittent use space, maybe not.

    您的加热燃料和空间加热设备是什么?

  3. 罗伯特·梅森||#3

    空间作为全年的客厅,kitchen areas.The room is 23 feet across contributing to the cool feel I imagine. The perimeter has 2 inches of eps 4 feet down on the outside of frost wall. I heat mostly with a PT105 pellet boiler with oil backup. The sleepers are PT. What a great tool this site is and the people who contribute. Many thanks.

  4. Expert Member
    Dana Dorsett||#4

    I assume you meant the Harman PB105 (not PT...) boiler? Seems like a lot of boiler, but it can probably still run at reasonable efficiency even if it's (probably) 2-3x oversized for the actual load. (And pellet pricing in ME sure beats oil with huge margin!)

    If it's a year-round living-room there's a comfort argument for radiant. Without more technical specs on the pellet boiler it's hard to say if running low-temp radiant involves any greater design/implementation difficulty than it would be running an oil boiler, but it's probably not going to be as happy & thrilled as a gas-fired modulating/condensing boiler at low-low temps. Any good heating system design starts with a careful heat load calculation, from which all the rest flows.

  5. 罗伯特·梅森||#5

    感谢Dana,我们有6000SF,但我认为它将处理它,通过Martin的先前建议,我们发现屋顶系统中有很多空气逃生,该屋顶系统被浪费了BTU,我们可以在Radiant中使用。在线经销商说,800 ST的Diys系统为3000美元。您是否会使用目前的绝缘材料来做到这一点,净空是我家人说会杀死两个房间的外观的问题。我打算混合180锅炉供应。

  6. Expert Member
    Dana Dorsett||#6

    如果您没有净空来容纳更高的楼层,那么加热地板的地板损失将是显着的。(我不是100%确定的,但是我的IIRC在建筑物代码中的加热板代码中阐明了最低的R值,即使是改造的。石膏)如果您的热负荷足够低(与辐射墙和天花板一起使用时,石膏的温度限制不超过温度的限制),但是低温平板辐射器比辐射天花板舒适(或更多)方法。

  7. 罗伯特·梅森||#7

    谢谢for your help

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