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Adding More Insulation to Existing Spray Foam

Atgambleassoc| Posted inEnergy Efficiency and Durabilityon

我是一名建筑师,正在研究CA的翻新。1800在NH沿海地区(第5区)的开普(Cape),我们惊讶地发现了闭孔泡沫(看起来像是一项不良的DIY工作, *可能 *实现R9)在外墙的2×4螺柱腔中。显然,我们需要加强绝缘材料,而GC不愿投入资源来雕刻现有的SPF。由于我们居住在房子的这一部分,因此我想使用1.5英寸 +矿物质羊毛连续的护套和WRB(以及绑带 +通风式覆层组件的内侧)。GC希望将其系带在内部(2×2)上,并喷洒额外的CC泡沫以达到R19分钟。由于几个原因,我不喜欢墙壁上其他闭孔泡沫的想法,但是您怎么看?

Also: we’re building two small additions (over crawlspaces) as part of this project and I’d love advice:
– We’re just 12″ above ledge, so an insulated slab and frost walls aren’t possible. Would it be better to: a) run a 20 mil pool liner over the floor (dirt/ledge), covered with gravel, and extend the plastic all the way up the interior of the CMU walls? We’d then apply rigid foam (taped) to the underside of the floor framing, and use that surface to support mineral wool batts in the joist bays and spray the rim joist. There will be some plumbing and electrical running in the joist bays, so thinking CC foam won’t work here.
或者,b)喷洒整个托梁空间,并将拉链或其他胶带涂在托梁的底面,然后将刚性泡沫涂在爬行空间墙壁上?

非常感谢!

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  1. DCContrarian||#1

    Is the existing foam achieving air sealing? If so you could probably get away with batts or blown cellulose on the interior.

    1. Atgambleassoc||#4

      The existing foam is a MESS. I don't think we can count on it for any air sealing value, but maybe a new WRB over the existing sheathing could achieve that?

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    Zephyr7||#2

    您可以用开放的细胞喷雾泡沫作为另一种选择来填充其余的室内Studbays。就我个人而言,我喜欢外部连续的绝缘材料,这将是我的偏爱,因此外部舒适板将起作用。您也可以以每英寸的相似R来使用EPS,成本少得多。

    I would NOT add exterior spray foam. I think that puts your sheathing at risk, and you'll get the same uneven layer out there as you ahve inside.

    我无法完全想象您所提出的基础墙组件,您可以附加图纸还是素描?

    如果您的爬网空间仅为12英寸,那么与仅隔离爬网墙相比,您可能会获得更好的性能,从而绝缘地板的底面。为了在隔离墙壁以下隔离墙时的最佳性能,您确实需要至少隔热至霜冻深度,您只能在CZ5中只能使用12英寸的可访问墙。我将在托梁下使用Polyiso,至少厚1英寸,然后用batts或松散的填充隔热材料(纤维素或玻璃纤维)填充托梁湾。将Polyiso的接缝胶带胶带并密封周长,以给您带来良好的空气屏障。我绝对不会在这里喷托梁或地板的底面。

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    1. Atgambleassoc||#3

      嗨,比尔,
      这是一个过程中的WS细节。对于添加地板,我们至少将在地板托梁下至少24英寸的清晰空间。非常感谢您的想法。

      For the walls of the existing building, I wouldn't go with spray foam either, but am wondering if 2" exterior rigid foam raises any red flags given that the wall won't be able to dry outward well. My preference is to use mineral wool but I don't know that we'll have the budget given all the surprises we're finding.

      Many thanks,
      艾丽森

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        Zephyr7||#5

        我没有看到您的细节问题,尽管我会在墙壁的内部使用智能蒸气延迟器以进行额外保险。膜似乎再次可用,它可能是目前市场上最便宜的智能蒸气延迟器,至少我知道。请注意,您的“至少R10”对于2个刚性泡沫排除了EPS。我本人会在这里使用Polyiso。

        如果您想修剪一些成本,则可以为2x4墙壁获得高密度的玻璃纤维板,从而为您提供相同的R15绝缘值。如果您的内墙打开,您也可以使牛皮纸面对的烤面包板,并将牛皮纸作为您的“智能”蒸气延迟器,尽管与诸如膜这样的东西相比,要安装的劳动力要多一点一枪。与矿物质羊毛相比,玻璃纤维巴特需要更多的护理才能获得良好的安装,但是如果您小心,则可以使用两种材料获得非常相似的最终结果。

        我认为在那个地板上而不是矿物羊毛中填充玻璃纤维。这是您可以省钱的另一个地方,这里的两种材料之间没有太大区别。使用松散的填充物还意味着非常低的人工成本,因为它将快速安装,并且不需要任何使用Batts的削减方式。一旦将Polyiso放在托梁的底面,就可以将松散的填充物吹到任何想要的深度,然后立即开始放入地下。您只需要稍微更改施工订单,以便在地板进行之前可以隔离。假设您将完全打开地板,这在翻新项目中可能并非如此。

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  3. Atgambleassoc||#6

    Thanks, Bill. This is all super helpful. I appreciate the focus on cost-saving measures--we will likely need them!

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