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先锋品牌迷你邮政局 - 有什么经验吗?

4GVNSNR|发布Mechanicals

他们非常便宜,但我没有个人经验。任何人都知道他们与其他“预算”品牌相提并论,例如Gree,Cool先生,Daikin等?

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  1. 4GVNSNR||#1

    特别是以1168美元的价格查看24K BTU 17 SEER(WYS024GMFI19RL-16)。

  2. 专家成员
    Akos Toth||#2

    I've used a couple of 9k units for AC only. Cheap and works, nothing special. Both indoor and outdoor units are pretty quiet, but so are most inverter units.

    不是最好的热泵,因为在寒冷的天气中,输出很快就会下降,并且没有锅中的加热器。

  3. 4GVNSNR||#3

    I’m wondering if any of the cheaper units come with pan heaters.

    如果我正确阅读文献,先锋会加热到4度。我也强烈考虑的另外两个(Gree -livo/vireo)都加热至-5度。

  4. BFW577||#4

    我在一所湖泊的房子里有一个12k的单位,长达两年。他们就像其他各个品牌一样,只是与东芝压缩机重新挑战。我会花更多的钱,并获得一个将全部热量输出到5的Midea Premier系列。

    You can get more information at the below link. The higher 22 seer pioneer units do have basepan heaters and better cold weather performance. I attached the performance charts for both. The 17 seer is almost worthless for any heating capability in cold weather and has no basepan heater.

    https://www.pdhvac.com/support/manuals-and-brochures/

  5. 4GVNSNR||#5

    That is super useful information! I am definitely needing decent heat output at low temperature so based off that I’d say the lower end pioneers would not be a good choice. I’ll try to find those charts on the Grees I was looking at.

    我还没有看到过多的Mideas,我认为我一直在寻找的网站并没有真正携带它们,但我一定会研究它们。

    1. BFW577||#6

      Midea几乎使大多数迷你店分裂了。它们是世界上最大的制冷组合。如果您挖掘服务手册,安装手册和交叉参考内容,则全部由MIDEA制造,并且具有GMCC东芝压缩机。我的Midea放在一个带有Midea贴纸的北美航空公司盒子里。

      我从Minisplit Warehouse购买了Midea Midea Premier楼层控制台Hyper Heath。我交叉引用了我的地板控制台单元,它与Daikin,Gree,Carrier,Blueridge等相同。文献与其中的不同品牌完全相同。Midea看来几乎在制造它们,或者它们都使用完全相同的设计。

  6. 专家成员
    达娜·多塞特(Dana Dorsett)||#7

    >"... other “budget” brands like Gree, Mr Cool, Daikin "

    在该列表上找到Daikin很奇怪。大金(Daikin)是一流的日本制造商,在北美拥有良好的声誉和相当良好的支持网络。

    >“ Midea几乎使大多数迷你店分裂了。”

    尽管已成为世界上最大的空调制造商,但还是一个可疑的断言。Gree也很大(曾经是中国最大的AC制造商),并将其设备oe设备为许多不同的标签。在过去的十年中,许多其他迷你品牌也有很多富士通组件。

    >"If you dig into the service manuals, installation manuals, and cross reference stuff its all made by Midea and they have GMCC Toshiba compressors. My Midea came in a Carrier North America box with Midea stickers that you put on yourself."

    美的与东芝的十年s ago in a joint venture with Toshiba building a large refrigeration compressor factory in China. United Technologies/Carrier only got into bed with Midea/Toshiba about a decade ago. Unfortunately Carrier doesn't import/support the full complement of Midea mini-split equipment in the US market. Midea USA distributes some of the non-Carrier equipment via internet sales, but local support for Midea-branded mini-splits seems spotty at best.

    无论哪种方式,MIDEA显然都是这种设备的第一台中国制造商,但远非唯一的中国热泵设备制造商,除非Gree变成仅中等的展览。我了解到,从几年前,韩国的三星迷你底片成为了中世单元,但没有LG。

    MIDEA远不止是一家制冷设备公司,它是一家主要的企业集团,拥有各种消费和家庭用品,从洗碗机到搅拌机以及各种小型电器。甚至美国Midea都在其网站上列出了一些家用电器/小型设备设备:https://us.midea.com/

    >“我从Minisplit仓库购买了Midea Midea Premier楼层控制台Hyper Heath。”

    Premier系列冰冷的气候设备在纸上看起来非常好,应该符合这些规格。有了适当的安装,可以合理地期望他们与日本大型制造商的迷你拆分具有可比的寿命。您为较低的互联网价格点放弃的唯一一件事就是支持网络。

    1. BFW577||#8

      So what are your thoughts Dana on why every manufacturer seems to be using pretty much the same equipment? Outside of Mitsubishi if you google the 12k floor console units for example they are all literally the same exact unit? Is one factory making them all?

      Why is the Daikin unit exactly the same as the Midea? Here is the Midea and Daikin floor units. They are identical.

      If you spend some time most of the wall units are all the same as well right down to the remotes.

  7. Alan72||#9

    Is there a list of these kinds of relationships (which units are rebranded units from other companies, etc) and their respective level of quality?

    We have Fujitsu ducted mini splits specified for our house build - I spoke with an HVAC contractor to get a quote yesterday and he was really impressed with Mitsubishi yet he was willing to price out the Fujitsu units... makes trying to make decisions about the units difficult - or at least it feels like we don't have all the information needed for the decision...

    对不起,帖子很高 -

    艾伦

    1. BFW577||#11

      没有我知道的清单。您或多或少需要自己进行研究。首先比较提交表,安装说明,服务手册等。

  8. 4GVNSNR||#10

    我之所以包括Daikin,是因为它们的价格较低的单元似乎与下层级别的水平竞争。实际上,我第一次编写它,然后将其添加回LOL。

    挖掘文献并提出更多规定后,我不确定任何“预算”机器在寒冷的天气中会表现得足够好,以满足我的需求。我可以处理较低的先知评级没有问题,但是它需要在零学位的天气下工作和合理地工作。

    我在1K-1500范围内看到了足够的2吨单元,但在5度左右的情况下,加热并不多。似乎要获得这种类型的性能,您需要加入2K单元。

    1. BFW577||#12

      我几乎在您的确切帖子中,想要一个不错的价格寒冷的气候单元。花了几个小时的研究后,我与希腊蓝宝石和中高级总理一起去了。如果您按效率MIDEA在AHRI目录中分类,而Gree实际上在大多数知名人士之前就占据了列表的顶部。

      I assume you are self installing? These things are actually quite simple to install. The downfall is limited warranty and support but the savings are massive. When I did the math I could buy 3 Midea Premiers compared to the cost of a professional Mitsubishi install. So even if this one fails I can still buy another 2 before I break even compared to a professional install.

      我会看Midea Premier DLCSRAH24AAK。它的运输方式约为1500美元。它的额定额为5和79%的100%的热量为-22。我有12k单元,它是寒冷的天气表现。

  9. 4GVNSNR||#13

    我正在认真考虑的是,我真的不想花那么多花钱。他们的规格在这些方面真是太棒了。与2000年相比,宁愿在1500范围内。

    Where did you buy your Midea Premier from? For such a dominate brand I sure am having trouble locating online retailers that carry them.

  10. BFW577||#14

    我在Ecomfort和Minisplit Warehouse的Midea购买了Gree。

    The 24k Midea is $1599 and the 24k Gree is $2061. Both prices include shipping.

    Gree给我留下了深刻的印象,所以我肯定会在上面花费400个。

  11. nickdefabrizio||#15

    该线程突出显示了几件事,但似乎有可能,迷你拆分不会以足够数量的数量捕捉到减少美国碳排放的重要因素就像任何窗户单元一样,合理的房主。就像亚洲一样。$ 5,000的单头安装和$ 10,000+多头安装限制了改装的适用性,尤其是因为即使是由Pro安装的,这些单元的长期(即超过十年)的可靠性也有些可疑。

    1. gusfhb||#16

      First thing you have to understand is that the generic AC contractor hears the question " I want you to put AC in my house, and the answer is
      '$ 10,000'
      无论您选择什么。在他们开始查看Minisplit安装为成本Plus之前,它们将不会流行。

      We know the name brands last over 10 years without fault, so valid assumptions about tier two units can be made.

  12. _jt||#17

    我安装了17个先知单元中的两个,我对它们感到满意。但是我的99%温度点是15度,所以我不必担心0度性能。

    A couple notes:

    On installation: You really do need a HVAC tech to do the vacuum and re-fill. The pre-filled lines tend to be a little off, so if you don't check them your performance will be off.

    冷却:非常好的冷却性能。我的账单下降了4-5倍,而先前安装的管道空气处理程序。

    加热:30-50度 - 效果很好。警察似乎超过3。

    加热10-30度 - 效果足够好。缺乏基础蛋糕加热器意味着我确实必须关注冰的堆积。

    I probably would have purchased the 22 SEER unit for better heating capacity if I did it again - but I purchased it originally for cooling.

    控件:应用程序和遥控器并不那么直观 - 但它与Alexa很好地集成在一起,因此我们通常如何控制它,调整温度等。

    Question: Has anyone retrofitted a base pan heater onto an existing unit? I suspect something as simple as a pipe heating wire could provide the same effect as a base pan heater in not so extreme cold.

  13. BuildersPrideCons||#18

    我有先锋迷你拆分的经验,它们是很棒的。我认为这些单元是由MIDEA制造的,每次安装了一个IVE时,我都有零问题。我确实安装了一次Daikin,它的电路板不好,所以我开始使用Pioneer。从现在开始我将使用先驱http://www.highseer.com并直接购买它们,并带有线条和电源线。我也亲自拥有一个,它已经连续5年了,并且像冠军一样工作。

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