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纤维素安装问题?

rsoup|发布一般的问题on

因此,我只能找到一家公司,甚至可以给我造成隔热添加的价格。安装后,我认为有一些问题。
#1. Based on my research they did not blow dense enough. Most of the insulation when I pressed on it was soft(not like the firm mattress feel I was looking for). They didn’t roll it flat, and left me to do it.
#2. The insulation got behind the netting and between the studs creating ridges up to or over 1\4” tall in many places
#3。他们将纤维素吹到所有的通风板上,其中许多降落在通风拱顶的顶部,这是LP Smart Soffit,已完成和涂漆。
#4。加法是在码头上开放的。我让它们在I托梁和几个海湾之间吹纤维素,当我向上推时,感觉就像是在绝缘层和底层底部之间有一个空隙。

所以我想我正在寻找一些指导。是这些实际问题还是我疯了。我告诉他们有关问题的信息,他们回来了,基本上说他们无能为力。我是按施工而努力的?我有什么办法可以验证密度吗?谢谢。中央医学博士4区。

I have pics but it won’t let me upload, perhaps too large.

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  1. Brian Pontolilo||#1

    听起来您的安装程序充其量是草率的,最坏的情况可能会使您的绝缘材料无法按预期执行。我不知道最好的行动是什么是(不断给承包商烦恼,向另一个承包商付款以修理工作或聘请律师),但是我最担心安装中的空白和缺乏密度。虽然需要清理山脊的山脊和过度喷雾是一种烦恼,但其他两个细节会阻碍绝缘的性能。我希望有人对您如何测量安装密度有一个想法。我不确定这一点是否会有所帮助,但是这是FHB的一篇文章,介绍了如何完成安装:

    https://www.finehomebuilding.com/2017/11/11/dense-pack-cellulose-ussulation-done-right

  2. Eric Habegger||#2

    rsoup, it seems like a very substandard installation to me. It sounds like they left you stuck. I did my own cellulose install on my home and it turned out much better than yours. I can only tell you what I would do in your situation but I think you should trust what seems to me to be your pretty good instincts.

    密集的包装纤维素是非常绿色的,如果您提前计划并考虑一下,这并不是很艰苦的工作。在您的情况下,我会记录他们所做的一切,包括他们不推广。他们不这样做是不可接受的,因为那是工作中最苛刻的部分。我不会将其带给律师,而是要通过小额索赔法院进行报销。这样,如果您输了,即使您不应该输掉,这总是可能的,您也不会为律师赚钱。

    I would hate to see you just give up on dense packing because there is only one installer in your area. That might mean doing it yourself like I did. Even the big box stores have cellulose machines for rent that are capable of doing the job at 3.5 lbs/ft which is sufficient for 2x6 framing (2x4 requires less). You just have to make sure the gate valve is adjusted so that you have a high ratio of air to cellulose because otherwise the machine will bog down before you get enough cellulose density. Some machine meant only for attic blows don't even have gate valve and are unsuitable for dense pack. Each bay should end up bellied way out behind the netting.

    The disadvantage of big box store machines are that they are generally slow because you have to dial the cellulose to air ratio way back for them not to bog down. The advantage of doing it yourself is that most of the cellulose is already there, though in insufficient quantity. Just put up new netting and make sure it is stapled securely to the 2x's so that it doesn't pop out under pressure. like theirs probably did. It's easy to have too much pressure coming from the compressor going to the stapler and have the stapler blow right through the netting. Ask me how I know!

  3. Eric Habegger||#3

    还有一件事。如果作业最初完成正确,您应该能够按下每个海湾顶部的纤维素,而不会压缩。如果您可以做到这一点,并在顶部获得3英寸或更多的开放空间,那么它的密度严重不足。您还可以尝试使用自己的信息,而且还可以拍照,如果事实证明它可以将其记录下来。不足。

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    Martin Holladay||#4

    R.Soup,
    如果您自己解决问题,您可能会发现这篇文章很有用:“如何安装纤维素绝缘。”

  5. rsoup||#5

    当我滚动时,基本上只需两次刷一下即可将其弄平,因此听起来像是缺乏密度的指标。如果我在网中的孔中伸到手中,纤维素将掉落。安装人员每2-3英寸在螺柱的中心面上钉住,这显然引起了上述问题。
    Martin, I had read that article several times prior to the install which is how I quickly realized it was done wrong.

    So if I rent a machine, can I theoretically pull off the netting(not really netting, looks more like a plastic napkin) staple up some insulweb and blow into the insulation that is already in place or does it need to be removed? This is assuming it stays in the wall after removing the netting?

    1. Eric Habegger||#6

      我会尝试拉下现有的网络,只是看看纤维素是否留在那里。如果确实如此 - 很好。然后,只需放置新的Insulweb,然后用机器添加到现有的纤维素中。

  6. rsoup||#7

    好的,所以我跳跃了,决定进行密度测试。我在两个位置拆除了1/2立方英尺。一个小海湾的窗户下方的一个,我知道它可能已经足够密集,另一个在顶部的墙上,感觉柔软。寡妇下面的测试导致2磅,壁测试的1.362磅。是否有任何官方文件说明3.5 PCF我可以向公司展示以帮助我的案件?

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      Martin Holladay||#9

      I don't know what you mean by "official documents," but here are links to two references that explain why you need a minimum density of 3.5 lbs. per cubic foot for an adequate installation of dense-packed cellulose:

      "Dense-Pack Cellulose Coverage Chart"

      "Dense-Pack Cellulose Insulation Done Right"

  7. Eric Habegger||#8

    As a diy'er I don't think my name carries much weight. I would use Mr. Hulstrunck as a reference. That's probably misspelled. Other people here might be able to help you with a reference. I'm pretty sure the 3.5 lbs/ cubic ft is right though.

  8. rsoup||#10

    感谢s Eric for all of your guidance and input and everyone who replied. Much appreciated.

  9. rsoup||#11

    好了最后一个问题我希望有人能回答智慧h confidence. I stared pulling down the netting and I keep getting this bad feeling that if I leave the cellulose in, being that’s it’s already between 2-3 pcf and rolled, I’m going to have trouble getting anymore to blow in with the machine I have available to rent(force 1 is biggest I could find). I’m going to glue the netting to the studs and am not doing this again. Am I better of removing cellulose and starting over or will the force 1 be able to add more density? Thanks

  10. rsoup||#12

    没关系,我要去除所有纤维素并放入岩石羊毛,这是我的最初计划。感谢

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